Thatâs what strikes me about Tula at this point in the show, because she seems to be the real woman of action. You have Valya pulling the strings, but Tula comes through and gets it done. But to your point, sheâs also easily influenced. To what extent do you think sheâs driving the bus, and to what extent do you think sheâs being manipulated by those around her?
I think she begins her journey to avenge her brotherâs death very influenced by Valya. Weâve seen her say âAn eye for an eye will never be enough,â and yet off she goes. I think Orry is a good mirror for Griffin. Heâs going to be the next head patriarch of the Atreides, and in that way, I think she is being swayed, pushed by Valya.
Sheâs never been independent before. And sheâs the youngest, so sheâs always been Valyaâs sister. This is the first time sheâs been independent, and I think that does embolden her, and I think she sees this as both an opportunity to break away and surprise Valya in a way that she knows she will value. Thatâs how I think about this massacre and how it forms in Tulaâs mind, how she cooks it up. This is her masterpiece, so to speak, that sheâs going to present to value and get this approval that sheâs always sought.
How did Olivia Williamsâs portrayal of Tula impact your performance? Were you talking during production or did you build the character separately?
She had begun work before I got to Budapest. We hadnât spoken, actually, before I arrived, so I had just been listening to old podcasts that sheâd done. Iâm obviously Irish, and sheâs working in her own accent and I wanted to be more specific. I always, no matter what Iâm working on, pick a person, famous or not famous, who I listen to. And she was right there.
But we didnât meet until I got to Budapest. She was so generous in her time and how she talked about Tula. We talked about the family dynamic, what it means to be the youngest sibling. Then I got a screen pack from production of some of the work sheâd been doing, and I watched those in my own time.
I kind of used it as an anchor. In certain takes if I started to feel a little lost, Iâd think back to a scene and something Iâd noticed and let myself think about that for that take to ground me.
Anything people should be getting excited about for the back half of the season?
Obviously I canât say anything, but thereâs a lot of things that people havenât guessed. Theyâre not sniffing it out.